Hi guys,

If you have no intrest in this subject then ignore the thread, if you are into this stuff i got a sh!t loads of stuff like e-books, websites and videos. heres some videos to help you pass the time...

http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docid=-5407431706601832542&hl

http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docid=-6736722752013377089&hl

http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docid=-7040453665540929835&hl

This next one is best for UK Men and Women

http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docid=4024663011008894776&hl

To know more about Law and statutes I can only send you links, I am unable to just give direct answers.

There is no path to peace, Peace is the path.

i guess u read too much of dan brown's books. if u belive in it (i tried to watch the first link but it was reeeeeally to long) why are u wastin ur time on watchin that?????

I watched the lst video in full, the 1 for uk people .

The man does a very good job of explaining the legal system here and our legal status, him standing up to the police with his camera was good aswell. good post, i will watch the other videos soon

I watched Kymatica in full, id be a little skeptical of some things he says but in gerenaral it was interesting

I dont read Dan brown.

A lot of info in these videos are questionable but some info cannot be denied.

I look into this stuff because this is my magic, some people believe in god and a talking snake in the garden of eden,

Some people believe in aliens sticking probes in there asses, some people believe the goverment never lies and some people believe earth is only 3000 years old.

Is my likes really so crazy when you look at all the beliefs in this world?

I just finished watching the first video posted, and no offense or anything but this is why I hate conspiracy videos. The information in them is about 90 per cent speculative, and many of the so-called facts, show an ignorance of facts, cultures, religions, and languages, to someone who even has the slightest clue about them. So I'll just make a few points about that first video:

The first part of the video, was more-or-less about Pagan religions, and their knowledge of this that and whatever, and how modern monotheistic religions are perversions of these pagan religions. This is what bothers me a lot, it's unbelievable how many people take something a pagan says, with beliefs that were so easily disproved because of their ignorance of the solar system and it's functions (and because of it named gods for every cosmic event they saw) they take what they say as truth for no reason other than the fact that it's an obscure thought, something the general public doesn't believe, and by bringing it to light it appears, like they've uncovered some big mysterious mystery. Rubbish good sir, rubbish.

So, they say, the Cross is a pagan symbol? Because last I checked it represented a crucifix (this was among the funniest points they made in the video)

The word "Amen" Comes from Amen Ra? This shows a clear ignorance of Semitic languages. The word "Amen" comes from Hebrew from a trilateral root (Alif-Meem-Nun) which means to believe similarly, the Arabic trilateral root ا-م-ن which means the same thing. Semitic languages, unlike latin based languages base words on 3 letters called a root, so all words pertaining to one subject all are derived from a single root. Any imported words from foreign languages, don't have a root unless grammarians factor in a new root (but in this case they lose any similarity in phonetics with the original word) So the word "Computer" in Arabic is Kambutuur, where as when grammarians gave it a root, to make a new word in Arabic, they came up with Hasoob from the root ح-س-ب meaning "To calculate"; therefore an imported word cannot have a root system around it.

They also claim Saturday where the origin for Jews is from worshiping and commemorating the God of Saturn; perhaps if Saturday, and Shabbos / Sabt were synonymy at all. You cannot apply Roman paganism (Saturday - Saturn Day) to Judaism which they first claimed was influenced by Egyptian thought. Also if this claim is true what about Friday? Is it connected to paganism to because it is the Islamic day of rest. Everyone has their own calendar system, it's a simple method for telling time and dating, sure, if I decide to do something special every x-day, you could say well the [insert group here] used that day for [insert event] but does it hold any relevance without proof?

And as for some pagan ceremonies in biblical contexts, sure, but this has to do with Pauline Christianity, not Christianity as a whole, where many Holidays were adopted because Christianity flourished, not where it originated by from people who didn't know the language of the first Christians, nor the culture, and when they adopted it they adopted it in a way they saw fit. But I don't see that as a way of discrediting Christianity, because, if one has belief in the Messiah, then you know Christianity was never completed anyway; was merely a reformation of Judaism. Basically I'm saying the similarities in holidays and ceremonies in Christianity, are not Christianity copying paganism, but Pagans interjecting their beliefs into Christianity (namely the Romans).

Anyway that's just a few points about the cute introduction they made, where of course they want you to believe everything you once thought is actually connected to something else, then they start talking about other things, like fluoridated water. I agree on this, it's kind of stupid to fluoridate water, it's not made for digestion. But there was a time where people thought fluoride was good for you, before science was up to speed as it is now. So the government would give grants for companies to fluoridate water. I hardly believe it's some conspiracy, same thing with aspartame, they use aspartame because it's cheap, made in a lab, not harvested. The FDA approves it because they are a government agency and all government agencies rely on the billions of tax dollars from industry, so they turn a blind eye. Remember these are private companies, I don't think the heads of PEPSI, COKE, etc, are sitting with the Illuminati plotting to kill by years of the population drinking fluoride, and aspartame.

And about GW, I know it's a heated debate, but this is a point in the video that's very contradictory, anyone who ever watched FOX news knows a large portion of the media is against GW, they even quoted Glenn Beck the craziest man alive, because he conveniently makes up shit about the government oppressing us (Now we know if George Bush was in office he'd be ass kissing like there's no tomorrow) this is a political thing, not a NWO thing. Thats just the truth. And sure it's true GW is over inflated so they can tax carbon emissions, but that's becoming pretty common knowledge it doesn't need to be connected to shit it's not connected to.

See all these videos, do the same thing mainstream media try to do and that's try to sway your opinion on something by using emotions, and psychology, music, photos of war, death destruction, that can be interpreted 100s of different ways. When you do research you see this "50,000 year plot to do whatever the fuck they want to do" is probably the biggest joke in conspiracy circles. Because honestly, lets say I'm the top Illuminati guy, I take over the world, have every single dollar, gold, and valuable item, control everyone. Well in 60 years I'll probably be dead. So that 50,000 year plan to get me to that point... I think is just a tad bit silly.

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I didnt watch the first video as i seen a few of the flaws u mentioned aswell in the intro, kymatica is flawed aswell i believe.

Check out the one for uk people jaymeal, i found it interesting, no dodgy music or immages, just a guy talking with some slides.

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