That's stupid... would be no point in training speed for fights. You can't change shit like that when people have invested so much time in training.

As for the 'its more realistic' argument, is having a lion cub in a prison cell realistic? Is going to the north pole when you are in prison? No! Anyway, fights usually start with a bit of banter/arguing so anyone could hit first.

Ima +1 and -1... I kind of agree with worm but not fully and here's my reasons.. when you attack you do throw the first punch... (as long as your speed is higher then the person your attacking).. and if you think about it how does someone land the first punch they throw in a fight.. it would either bein a "suprise" which could fall up the miraculousy catch off guard thing.. (which I know was just suggested don't know what they decided on it).. or the person who's being "punched" at has nice defense moves and dodges the first hit as they normaly would.

I guess what I'm gettin at is maybe this is how you could work in the miracle attacks if you were thinkin about doing it.. I just don't see how it would be balanced... seems like it would make training useless if everytime you attacked you throw the first puncch and it lands

or I just don't understand what worms tryin to get at and if that's the case ignore this post haha

You should all train defense

Yeah if the attacker always hit first I would lose to everyone that attacked me cuz I have 0 defense. And I would be able to beat bluesky and BK by attacking them cuz their defense is low...which I don't think makes much sense cuz they both have way more stats then me

If you attacked them you would still lose either way. Im talking about the first punch. If you attack you should be hitting the person not the other way around!

it doesnt have to land but if you hit attack you should be the one swinging win or lose

Well if I'm getting the first punch I woul?d win because my str is higher then their def

Yeah and if BK or Blue has low defence then Neo would win as he would punch first.

And who says you have to punch first? I have been in and seen enough fights where the attacker doesn't hit first... eg. the guy goes in with a haymaker and the quicker quy who is being attacked gets in a jab before the attacker gets a chance to land his. Hell... its a major part of Wing Chun.

WHERE DOES IT SAY YOU SHOULD HIT FIRST IT SAYS "SWING" FIRST! Not connect just swing. Hitting attack means you are starting a fight and you are swinging that doesnt say you are HITTING. READING IS FUNDAMENTAL!

Well under the current system if you hit or not is decided by what your strength is realitive to their defense....so under your system what would decide if you land your swing or not?