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13 years ago  #201
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Originally posted by HennyPenny I don't think any one of the presidential candidates will have a significant impact on fixing our problems. Congress is the main problem; last time I checked their approval rating was like 17%. Many of which have completely opposite views, grudges, alliances, and an all or nothing mentality which keeps them in deadlock. Since the democrats and republicans cant work together, I just assume to vote them both out in favor of a third party. Maybe then they will start to get the message ?

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Originally posted by hokiefan
Originally posted by HennyPenny I don't think any one of the presidential candidates will have a significant impact on fixing our problems. Congress is the main problem; last time I checked their approval rating was like 17%. Many of which have completely opposite views, grudges, alliances, and an all or nothing mentality which keeps them in deadlock. Since the democrats and republicans cant work together, I just assume to vote them both out in favor of a third party. Maybe then they will start to get the message ?

That's the truth

obama tried working with the republicans the first 2 years he was in it was about fixin america that bush broke !! and the closed minded old time republicans was more worried about makin sure the first black democratic president failed than getting this country pulled out of near depression . while the whole time the middle and lower class r losing their jobs and houses and the republicans dont want their millionaire supporters to chip in a lil more to help fix the problems that they caused !!! thats the truth god bless america!!

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I still hardly see any arguments defending Obama's record. Bush this bla bla, Romeny that bla bla, Romeny's rich blah blah. In case anyone has noticed, Obama is doing just fine himself, he's got a huge pension, he's got money invested off shore. It's okay for him?

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Originally posted by dickstone there was a surplus when he left office !!

Originally posted by dickstone http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Was_there_a_national_surplus_when_Clinton_left_office

There is no fucking way you just cited wiki answers...

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Originally posted by MeganFox
Originally posted by wormdogg10
Originally posted by MeganFox
Originally posted by wormdogg10

He still did the same thing. He also gained from the Chinese loopholes that he now says he opposes.

Flip Flops & Mittens arent good for any season let alone for 4 years straight!

"My plan will create 12 million jobs" Mitt Romney 10/16/12

45 minutes later "Government does create jobs. Government does create jobs." Mitt Romney 10/16/12

government does not create jobs, it can only create an environment for business to strive and create jobs for the economy to flourish

But it wont from an incoherent plan where the numbers dont add up. And from a man who wanted OUR auto industry to die so he can reap the benefits of off shore manufacturing. And a business man who made millions from killing jobs. A man who voted against equal pay for women. A VP candidate who thinks Rape is just another form of conception! A candidate who behind closed doors says that 47% of Americans believe they are victims and his role "is not to worry about those people. I'll never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives."

Megan I believe you said you were a college student right? Do you also work and make over $50,000 a year? Do you pay Federal Income taxes? No , the you are included in the 47% he doesnt care about!!

lol i dont even make 15k taxable income and im no where near the middle class and my parents make less than 50k if combined them, i just graduated with a degree in economics, i dont think ill ever get a decent job but thats no ones fault but my own, i have no student debt paid for school with cash, pay my rent, have a car and pay my bills,

but i agree with the conservatives on economic issues because the people with money are the ones who create jobs, if u tax them too much or put too many regulations on them then jobs will not get created, if i had 1mil cash at hand why would i risk investing it into a new business, risk it to fail and lose all that money, you risk to get rewarded with profits, but when government will take close to 50% my profits would have to be so great for me to invest, if there was a great opportunity that was worth the risk it would create the opportunity for someone to make back their 1mil and mybe 10mil more, and have a bunch of employees, thats how jobs are created....thats just how i look at it, giving poor people money is not going to contribute to long term jobs just helps them out in the current moment

I would assume that most people with a million dollars to spend would already be business-owners. Or, at least, that the richest of them are.

So we would be giving tax cuts to people who already own businesses (which would probably have to be successful, otherwise how would they still be making enough money off of it to stay in the high income brackets?), and if my somewhat over-the-top economics teacher in high school taught me anything, it was that businesses don't hire more people just because they have more money to spend. Everything I've learned from then has corroborated that point.

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Originally posted by Koryn
Originally posted by MeganFox
Originally posted by wormdogg10
Originally posted by MeganFox
Originally posted by wormdogg10

He still did the same thing. He also gained from the Chinese loopholes that he now says he opposes.

Flip Flops & Mittens arent good for any season let alone for 4 years straight!

"My plan will create 12 million jobs" Mitt Romney 10/16/12

45 minutes later "Government does create jobs. Government does create jobs." Mitt Romney 10/16/12

government does not create jobs, it can only create an environment for business to strive and create jobs for the economy to flourish

But it wont from an incoherent plan where the numbers dont add up. And from a man who wanted OUR auto industry to die so he can reap the benefits of off shore manufacturing. And a business man who made millions from killing jobs. A man who voted against equal pay for women. A VP candidate who thinks Rape is just another form of conception! A candidate who behind closed doors says that 47% of Americans believe they are victims and his role "is not to worry about those people. I'll never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives."

Megan I believe you said you were a college student right? Do you also work and make over $50,000 a year? Do you pay Federal Income taxes? No , the you are included in the 47% he doesnt care about!!

lol i dont even make 15k taxable income and im no where near the middle class and my parents make less than 50k if combined them, i just graduated with a degree in economics, i dont think ill ever get a decent job but thats no ones fault but my own, i have no student debt paid for school with cash, pay my rent, have a car and pay my bills,

but i agree with the conservatives on economic issues because the people with money are the ones who create jobs, if u tax them too much or put too many regulations on them then jobs will not get created, if i had 1mil cash at hand why would i risk investing it into a new business, risk it to fail and lose all that money, you risk to get rewarded with profits, but when government will take close to 50% my profits would have to be so great for me to invest, if there was a great opportunity that was worth the risk it would create the opportunity for someone to make back their 1mil and mybe 10mil more, and have a bunch of employees, thats how jobs are created....thats just how i look at it, giving poor people money is not going to contribute to long term jobs just helps them out in the current moment

I would assume that most people with a million dollars to spend would already be business-owners. Or, at least, that the richest of them are.

So we would be giving tax cuts to people who already own businesses (which would probably have to be successful, otherwise how would they still be making enough money off of it to stay in the high income brackets?), and if my somewhat over-the-top economics teacher in high school taught me anything, it was that businesses don't hire more people just because they have more money to spend. Everything I've learned from then has corroborated that point.

no they dont hire because they have mroe to spend, but if they have an opportunity to make more money then they will hire more workers if it will lead to profits

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Originally posted by MeganFox no they dont hire because they have mroe to spend, but if they have an opportunity to make more money then they will hire more workers

But that's still independent from having the tax break in the first place. We just give the companies more to work with, but many could hire more workers to meet their projected supply without the tax breaks.

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Originally posted by Koryn
Originally posted by MeganFox no they dont hire because they have mroe to spend, but if they have an opportunity to make more money then they will hire more workers

But that's still independent from having the tax break in the first place. We just give the companies more to work with, but many could hire more workers to meet their projected supply without the tax breaks.

when the government collects 50% of its profits it takes a lot away, say a company makes computer mouses, they want to get into the business of making keyboards, they might spend 500k on new equipment, 50k on research and patents, 50k on training a whole new set of workers, and whatever other expenses there are(just an example the $ just to prove a point) and hires another 50 workers to make them

the company has invested a lot of cash into this new product, which may not be successful, it mail end up failing and be a bad investment

if the company may only make 100k a year on this new product line with 50k after taxes that means it will have to operate for 10 years to get its money back, not including new technology and research/training to keep up with the competition

is it worth it to that company to put the money into it? risk losing all that cash, or just sit on the profits it has...if they have the opportunity to make the full 100k then they are more likely to risk it

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