if it wasnt for unions makin sure the workin man wasnt being screwed all over the place where would this country be ?

Where does it say that in here? Go ahead Ill wait!!

http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/microsites/ERP_2012_Complete.pdf

Hokie, what exactly is your bitch, gripe, or complaint? Your all over the place with your discord. In 3 bullets or less what are you so mad about? What is causing you the MOST heartburn? Be sure to take your ADD/ADHD meds before you start rambling on.

hard to contain it to only 3, but here are 3 bullets.

> irresponsible spending and complete lack of attention to the out of control debt and deficit (when was the last official budget?)

> very slow recovery, founded on government spending and growth, not private sector job creation

> increased emphasis on entitlement society and class warfare (endless extensions to jobless benefits, obamacare, foodstamps, welfare work restriction removal)

edit: and i don't give one fucking shit about george bush, 4 years, obama owns this shit now. I took a leadership class last week and you know what one thing they taught was... "it doesn't matter what happened 1, 2, 5, 10, 20 years before you took over, you are there and you are in charge of it, own it and fix it."

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OK let's see

>Spending/Debt/Deficit/Budget - #3 Bullet Limit!!!

Spending - "irresponsible"...compared to when exactly? Every single presidnet has spent more than their predecessor. This is FACT. What is also a true is that the Obama admin has increased the amount of spending by a LOWER percentage than his predecessors. Laying blame to the spending problem we have squarley on the current admin is unreasonable.

Debt - "out of control" I agree wih you 100%!! Sorry but the facts dont support you as far as blaming this admin for the out of control debt. The current debt and accrual of debt are a continuing result Pre-Obama,Pre-Bush actions. Now unfortunatly for you, you WILL have to give a fuck about the prior admin's desicions that have lead to the current debt.

Here's a fun fact for you - during the GW Bush admin our debt increased by 1.1 Trillion in 100 days. Record breaking.. True Shit!! Now I could leave it at that, but in all honesty GW's choices had little to do with the increase. That comes back to my point that you MUST take into account the prior actions that have lead U.S. to where we are now. Again you can't blame the current admin for the debt.

I'm starting to see a trend here!!

Regarding your leadership class. A huge percentage of your success as a leader will be based on your ability to successfully resolve problems. The mere fact that you choose to refuse to acknowledge the facts and history of the incidents that lead to any problem, in order to develop a solution to said problem, worries me that you lack the basic comprehension needed in order successfully resolve problems. Therefore making you an ineffective leader. I have never heard of a leader or military strategist worthy of reading or studying that believed that you do not need to take into account the actions leading up to the situation.

blah blah blah

go buy a gun

Good stuff. also see this here

http://www.factcheck.org/2012/06/obamas-spending-inferno-or-not/

Quote from Pilox3 "again,you cannot blame the current administration for the debt"........are you kidding me???