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13 years ago  #761
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Originally posted by shawshank
Originally posted by wormdogg10
Originally posted by shawshank Not 100% accurate Worm....Hokie on many occasions has used multiple "sources" and made note of it,some of his sources may even be described as "liberal media".....and no where have I seen Hokie say everyone voted for Obama because he was black..shit,I'm sure a lot did,just as I'm sure a lot voted for Romney to NOT vote for the black guy..in both cases those voters were just ignorant...I'm sure a majority voted for him because he was a Democrat,whether it be teachers who felt he was more sympathetic to public education or women who bought into the "war on women" republican position....shit even posters here like rog or dick didn't vote for him because he was black but because of theiranti- republican bias (not a put down on their parts,and an assumption they voted)..but they didn't vote because of skin color......it's ez to pick on Hokie or myself because we are the most vocal,but thru-out this thread and the other,their have been many "shank/hokie" supporters and many "opposition" supporters.....but thru out I have never read Hokie slam 1 ethnicity like you claim.

Just because you dont openly come out and say something doesnt mean it wasnt implied as hes done on several occasions. And as far as those 4 or 5 posts from the "liberal media" as you claim he obviously didnt read them nor you because when I called him out on them he changed the subject. Looking at an articles title and just posting with out reading isnt the same as being unbiased. Because Im sure he actually reads the Bullshit from "Thenewamerican" and other anti Obama internet rags he dredges up! Not anti democrat (which would also be straight biased which he usually posts from) but ANTI-OBAMA! This is what this second term is about people reading hate websites instead of looking at the dead weight in Congress who refuse to do anything for the people!

You for one scream about entitlements but I dont know if its just me but since the age of 13 I've been paying into SS and Unemployment the whole time. So if the time comes and I need these things they're there for me. And if you think Im wrong about the whole voting black thing if im not mistaken both you and Hokie said something to that affect in the other thread! But you would be correct that he was voted back in as Democrat because why would someone vote for Mittens and Flip flops in November? The fact that you guys blame Obama for the stalemate in congress perplexes me because he has no say in how they vote and how they shoot down what he offers. But when the sequester fails you'll still blame Obama because he went along with the good ole' boys!

A lot of finger pointing,blaming Republicans for a do nothing administration...how have house republicans prevented Obama from submitting a budget in 4 years??...and how did Reagan get so much accomplished with a Democratic controlled congress??.......and I'm not sure why almost 1/2 the country voted for "mittens" or why a little more voted for "obama"..I guess to each their own......and I'm sure I've been paying ss a little longer then you,and the age needs to be raised,income levels for taxation raised for ss and a lot more revamped...maybe spend more on ss investigators so I don't see able bodied youths walking outta ss office w/ a check or the guy at the pub by noon at 37 years old on 100% social security disability.

First off what are you doing at the pub at noon yourself? However I agree with that but thats not for me to make those decisions however if I find myself unemployed or unable to work I should be to collect money from a system that I paid into. See thats the difference between me and you I dont worry myself about the people who take advantage of the system because people(and big business-Corporate welfare) is gonna do it every day. But I want those of us whove earned their way to be able to collect when the time comes. Not push the age further out for us to retire. I look at my mom as an example to that because the older she gets the higher they push the retirement age. She should have to work to 70 yrs old before she can retire? Man thats bullshit!

And how did Reagan do it you ask? Maybe because no Democrats had a meeting the day of his Inauguration determined to make him a 1 term President! And why was this President the only one who had this happen to him should be the question you ask yourself! Why him? Why not any others? Now if it isnt racial then what would be the reason for such disrespect for the Commander in Chief? Now since it didnt work for them in his first term, what would be their reason to continue doing this in his 2nd term?

Also Mittens percentage was his magic #47." Isn't it ironic, dont ya think"-Alanis Morrisette

Random question= That means if Blacks represent 13% of the USA (and Im sure there is no way possible that all 13% voted due to many circumstances) then who did?

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13 years ago  #763
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Unlike that racially charged aggression you guys allow Faux News to brain wash you with. THIS IS OUR AMERICA! Twins born to interracial parents. Hokies worst nightmare!White negroes!Man if white negroes join a Union Hokie might kill himself. (I mention Hokie because he likes to add my name in posts but wont answer me directly when I one up his bitch ass)

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13 years ago  #764
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I have no problem w/ people who paid into the system getting something out...as far as your mom or even me or you..their should be a gradual rise in age for receiving ss..grandfather older folks,middle agefolks..but lifespan has increased since ss inception..maybe 68..and tax 100% of earned income,why stop at 120k or whatever it is..and allow investment options.

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Originally posted by shawshank I have no problem w/ people who paid into the system getting something out...as far as your mom or even me or you..their should be a gradual rise in age for receiving ss..grandfather older folks,middle agefolks..but lifespan has increased since ss inception..maybe 68..and tax 100% of earned income,why stop at 120k or whatever it is..and allow investment options.

American life expectancy is avg. 77 yrs old (less for men more for woman) So we should only be able to enjoy retirement for 9 yrs? I worked all my life to relax for 9 yrs?

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13 years ago  #766
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Originally posted by wormdogg10
Originally posted by shawshank I have no problem w/ people who paid into the system getting something out...as far as your mom or even me or you..their should be a gradual rise in age for receiving ss..grandfather older folks,middle agefolks..but lifespan has increased since ss inception..maybe 68..and tax 100% of earned income,why stop at 120k or whatever it is..and allow investment options.

American life expectancy is avg. 77 yrs old (less for men more for woman) So we should only be able to enjoy retirement for 9 yrs? I worked all my life to relax for 9 yrs?

sure worm, sounds great. HOW ARE WE GOING TO PAY FOR IT?

and in reference to the stupid fucking picture of the oil rigs you posted up, get your head out of your ass. I'm for a flat tax, consumption tax, or something similar, and ending all games that the tax code system allows for. Money in - flat tax = money out. end all the deductions, credits, loopholes, subsidies, all that shit. isn't that really FAIR anyway, instead of the government picking who is a winner and who is a loser?

if someone makes 100k a year, they pay 10,000 in taxes. If someone makes 100 million a year, they pay 10 million in taxes. everybody wants to chastise the guy who made 100 million. Well he just paid $9,990,000 more in tax than the other guy. Isn't that FAIRNESS?

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Originally posted by hokiefan
Originally posted by wormdogg10
Originally posted by shawshank I have no problem w/ people who paid into the system getting something out...as far as your mom or even me or you..their should be a gradual rise in age for receiving ss..grandfather older folks,middle agefolks..but lifespan has increased since ss inception..maybe 68..and tax 100% of earned income,why stop at 120k or whatever it is..and allow investment options.

American life expectancy is avg. 77 yrs old (less for men more for woman) So we should only be able to enjoy retirement for 9 yrs? I worked all my life to relax for 9 yrs?

sure worm, sounds great. HOW ARE WE GOING TO PAY FOR IT?

and in reference to the stupid fucking picture of the oil rigs you posted up, get your head out of your ass. I'm for a flat tax, consumption tax, or something similar, and ending all games that the tax code system allows for. Money in - flat tax = money out. end all the deductions, credits, loopholes, subsidies, all that shit. isn't that really FAIR anyway, instead of the government picking who is a winner and who is a loser?

if someone makes 100k a year, they pay 10,000 in taxes. If someone makes 100 million a year, they pay 10 million in taxes. everybody wants to chastise the guy who made 100 million. Well he just paid $9,990,000 more in tax than the other guy. Isn't that FAIRNESS?

What part of that picture says anything about taxes. Cut bigger holes in your hood!

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13 years ago  #768
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Originally posted by wormdogg10
Originally posted by hokiefan
Originally posted by wormdogg10
Originally posted by shawshank I have no problem w/ people who paid into the system getting something out...as far as your mom or even me or you..their should be a gradual rise in age for receiving ss..grandfather older folks,middle agefolks..but lifespan has increased since ss inception..maybe 68..and tax 100% of earned income,why stop at 120k or whatever it is..and allow investment options.

American life expectancy is avg. 77 yrs old (less for men more for woman) So we should only be able to enjoy retirement for 9 yrs? I worked all my life to relax for 9 yrs?

sure worm, sounds great. HOW ARE WE GOING TO PAY FOR IT?

and in reference to the stupid fucking picture of the oil rigs you posted up, get your head out of your ass. I'm for a flat tax, consumption tax, or something similar, and ending all games that the tax code system allows for. Money in - flat tax = money out. end all the deductions, credits, loopholes, subsidies, all that shit. isn't that really FAIR anyway, instead of the government picking who is a winner and who is a loser?

if someone makes 100k a year, they pay 10,000 in taxes. If someone makes 100 million a year, they pay 10 million in taxes. everybody wants to chastise the guy who made 100 million. Well he just paid $9,990,000 more in tax than the other guy. Isn't that FAIRNESS?

What part of that picture says anything about taxes. Cut bigger holes in your hood!

Edit: And as far as who is going to pay for it, everybody that works pays into SS. SS is endless.

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Originally posted by wormdogg10
Originally posted by wormdogg10
Originally posted by hokiefan
Originally posted by wormdogg10
Originally posted by shawshank I have no problem w/ people who paid into the system getting something out...as far as your mom or even me or you..their should be a gradual rise in age for receiving ss..grandfather older folks,middle agefolks..but lifespan has increased since ss inception..maybe 68..and tax 100% of earned income,why stop at 120k or whatever it is..and allow investment options.

American life expectancy is avg. 77 yrs old (less for men more for woman) So we should only be able to enjoy retirement for 9 yrs? I worked all my life to relax for 9 yrs?

sure worm, sounds great. HOW ARE WE GOING TO PAY FOR IT?

and in reference to the stupid fucking picture of the oil rigs you posted up, get your head out of your ass. I'm for a flat tax, consumption tax, or something similar, and ending all games that the tax code system allows for. Money in - flat tax = money out. end all the deductions, credits, loopholes, subsidies, all that shit. isn't that really FAIR anyway, instead of the government picking who is a winner and who is a loser?

if someone makes 100k a year, they pay 10,000 in taxes. If someone makes 100 million a year, they pay 10 million in taxes. everybody wants to chastise the guy who made 100 million. Well he just paid $9,990,000 more in tax than the other guy. Isn't that FAIRNESS?

What part of that picture says anything about taxes. Cut bigger holes in your hood!

Edit: And as far as who is going to pay for it, everybody that works pays into SS. SS is endless.

so, then we are in agreement that if the labor participation rate is in a decline, it would essentially hurt SS, less money going in, less money to go out. Remember, there is no LOCK BOX. Your SS dollars are already spent, have been spent, and the government is borrowing from China to pay the bills as it is.

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GET SOME PUSSY....

 

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