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[quote=JimmyTheButcher][quote=JHate407][quote=Koryn][quote=RoosterCogburn]

[quote=Koryn][quote=RoosterCogburn][quote=Koryn][quote=SimpleMan]So its ok to kill an unarmed 17 yr old, that is wipping ur ass, with a Gun?[/quote]

So it's ok to beat a man for being suspicious of you?[/quote]

fuck ya if he followin ya while u drinkin your tea and eatin skittles mindin your own ![/quote]

Really? What possible reason would there be to beat a man for following you?
It seems almost as ludicrous as shooting a man for beating you.[/quote]

either it was racist or he wanted his skittles what other reason he have following him![/quote]

Either trayvon was racist or he wanted to get in a fight, what other reason would he have to just start hitting Zimmerman? You can keep saying that you would attack a man for following you, but I don't see the reasoning behind that.[/quote]

once again, ya'll acting like u saw the shit happen...how do u know that trayvon just up & startd beating on Zimmerman? mayb he did I wasn't there...but u could also argue the fact that Zimmerman grabd trayvon bcuz he didn't stop when he told him 2, or mayb he got inbetween trayvon & his house & trayvon tryd 2 push pass'd him & Zimmerman impede'd his progress & a 17yr old kid felt threatened & defend'd himself against a dude that had him out weight'd by over 100 lbs.[/quote]

A lot of what ifs there... the dude was fat and sloppy... the kid was 6'3 180-185lbs - a football player. i highly doubt he couldn't move zimmerman out of his way or just ran. have u ever tried to watch a fat out of shape person run against a high school football player? cmon... common sense. the witness closest to the scene said kid was on top of him pummeling him. it was at least for a minute - u ever been in a fight and been on the floor for a minute? that shit feels like an eternity... he screamed for help first, no one came - plan b, pulled his gun and fired. If your way of looking at it was true - once he broke zimmerman's nose and had him down on the ground he coulda just left him there and bounced, but he kept hitting him as this man is screaming for help. so what then? like i said it's a 2 way street. you can't have it both ways. [/quote]

idc if he was a fukn mma fighter bruh...he was fukn 17yrs old...Zimmerman a grown ass man...im sure after Zimmerman startd the shit, that his old fat ass was getn pummel'd by trayvon...in trayvons shoes at 17, I woulda done the same thing bcuz when u are confrontd its the fight or flight response...looks like trayvon had the fight response & once Zimmerman was getn his ass hand'd 2 him 4 be'n a profile'n ass retard he had the flight instinct kick in...my whole point is that Zimmerman is at fault in this whole situation!! without him thinkn he was sum vigilanty justice squad none of this happens..trayvon didn't follow him, Zimmerman follow'd trayvon & idk if u ever been follow'd by sum dude at night, but shit aint sunshine & rainbows u feeln in ya stomach & if dude gets close enuff 2 u 4 u 2 start fukn him up, then he aint just passn by...Zimmerman bit off mor than he could chew & when all else fail'd use his great equalizer"gun" & kill'd a 17yr old lil kid...if Zimmerman never follows trayvon, then we aren't hav'n this argument & no1 lost their life

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Originally posted by SimpleMan So its ok to kill an unarmed 17 yr old, that is wipping ur ass, with a Gun?

So it's ok to beat a man for being suspicious of you?

fuck ya if he followin ya while u drinkin your tea and eatin skittles mindin your own !

Really? What possible reason would there be to beat a man for following you?

It seems almost as ludicrous as shooting a man for beating you.

either it was racist or he wanted his skittles what other reason he have following him!

Either trayvon was racist or he wanted to get in a fight, what other reason would he have to just start hitting Zimmerman? You can keep saying that you would attack a man for following you, but I don't see the reasoning behind that.

once again, ya'll acting like u saw the shit happen...how do u know that trayvon just up & startd beating on Zimmerman? mayb he did I wasn't there...but u could also argue the fact that Zimmerman grabd trayvon bcuz he didn't stop when he told him 2, or mayb he got inbetween trayvon & his house & trayvon tryd 2 push pass'd him & Zimmerman impede'd his progress & a 17yr old kid felt threatened & defend'd himself against a dude that had him out weight'd by over 100 lbs.

A lot of what ifs there... the dude was fat and sloppy... the kid was 6'3 180-185lbs - a football player. i highly doubt he couldn't move zimmerman out of his way or just ran. have u ever tried to watch a fat out of shape person run against a high school football player? cmon... common sense. the witness closest to the scene said kid was on top of him pummeling him. it was at least for a minute - u ever been in a fight and been on the floor for a minute? that shit feels like an eternity... he screamed for help first, no one came - plan b, pulled his gun and fired. If your way of looking at it was true - once he broke zimmerman's nose and had him down on the ground he coulda just left him there and bounced, but he kept hitting him as this man is screaming for help. so what then? like i said it's a 2 way street. you can't have it both ways.

idc if he was a fukn mma fighter bruh...he was fukn 17yrs old...Zimmerman a grown ass man...im sure after Zimmerman startd the shit, that his old fat ass was getn pummel'd by trayvon...in trayvons shoes at 17, I woulda done the same thing bcuz when u are confrontd its the fight or flight response...looks like trayvon had the fight response & once Zimmerman was getn his ass hand'd 2 him 4 be'n a profile'n ass retard he had the flight instinct kick in...my whole point is that Zimmerman is at fault in this whole situation!! without him thinkn he was sum vigilanty justice squad none of this happens..trayvon didn't follow him, Zimmerman follow'd trayvon & idk if u ever been follow'd by sum dude at night, but shit aint sunshine & rainbows u feeln in ya stomach & if dude gets close enuff 2 u 4 u 2 start fukn him up, then he aint just passn by...Zimmerman bit off mor than he could chew & when all else fail'd use his great equalizer"gun" & kill'd a 17yr old lil kid...if Zimmerman never follows trayvon, then we aren't hav'n this argument & no1 lost their life

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[quote=BAnGA][quote=JimmyTheButcher][quote=MsHoney][quote=JimmyTheButcher][quote=Koryn][quote=MsHoney][quote=Koryn][quote=MsHoney][quote=Koryn][quote=MsHoney][quote=Koryn][quote=MsHoney][quote=Koryn][quote=MsHoney][quote=Koryn][quote=MsHoney]a neighborhood "watch" doesnt need a gun[/quote]

What does him being on the neighborhood watch have to do with him having a gun?

Quite a few people have guns, and don't belong to any military or police force.[/quote]

if your part of a "watch", whats the gun for? your supposed to be the one watching and if you see something suspicious...call the popo...[/quote]

Jesus Christ, once again, what does him having a gun have to do with him being on the neighborhood watch?

He has a gun.

He's on the neighborhood watch.

I have a gun.

I'm not on any neighborhood watch, nor am I a police officer.[/quote]

he took the law in his own hands. if you see something suspicious, are you gonna confront somebody cause you have a gun? i bet if he didnt have a gun he wouldve stayed inside and called 911 while looking out his window[/quote]

I bet if the police didn't have guns they would stay inside and call the army while looking out their windows.[/quote]

that makes no sense what so ever SMH try again[/quote]

If you don't see how:
i bet if he didnt have a gun he wouldve stayed inside and called 911 while looking out his window
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I bet if the police didn't have guns they would stay inside and call the army while looking out their windows
are related, then you have a serious issue. It's about delegating responsibility to another party because you're afraid of repercussions.[/quote]

police wouldnt be police without a gun and badge so that sounds dumb as hell[/quote]

Ok, excellent job addressing my analogy rather than the point that I made directly following it.[/quote]

my piont is that we are all police if some suspect shit goes on outside our house...but guess what...we stay inside and call the authorites!!![/quote]

So your point is that if something out of the ordinary happens you should avoid confrontation and instead contact the police?

Why didn't Trayvon do that? It might not be the perfect comparison, but your ideology contradicts SimpleMans' to a large degree.[/quote]

well i can't wait to see the intelligent response to this [/quote]

yes you should. thats why theres 911!!!!!! why would a grown man confront a "suspicious" person??? i know for a fact if it was 3 black guys and zimmerman never had a gun, he wouldve stayed his ass in the house and called 911. period.[/quote]

hold up... who said he even confronted him. he was following him in his car. he got out of his car to check the cross streets so that he could tell the dispatcher where he was. That's when the confrontation ensued. Where at any point in the trial did the prosecution or anyone say he "confronted" martin... see this is the shit i hate... mothafuckaz talkin out they ass. [/quote]
on the 911 tape zimmerman said he's running and u can hear him running after him open ya ears [/quote]

he's running from his car cuz he seen the kid staring him down so he can check the cross streets and get back to his car- obviously fat boy didn't run fast enough.

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Originally posted by MsHoney a neighborhood "watch" doesnt need a gun

What does him being on the neighborhood watch have to do with him having a gun?

Quite a few people have guns, and don't belong to any military or police force.

if your part of a "watch", whats the gun for? your supposed to be the one watching and if you see something suspicious...call the popo...

Jesus Christ, once again, what does him having a gun have to do with him being on the neighborhood watch?

He has a gun.

He's on the neighborhood watch.

I have a gun.

I'm not on any neighborhood watch, nor am I a police officer.

he took the law in his own hands. if you see something suspicious, are you gonna confront somebody cause you have a gun? i bet if he didnt have a gun he wouldve stayed inside and called 911 while looking out his window

I bet if the police didn't have guns they would stay inside and call the army while looking out their windows.

that makes no sense what so ever SMH try again

If you don't see how:

i bet if he didnt have a gun he wouldve stayed inside and called 911 while looking out his window

and

I bet if the police didn't have guns they would stay inside and call the army while looking out their windows

are related, then you have a serious issue. It's about delegating responsibility to another party because you're afraid of repercussions.

police wouldnt be police without a gun and badge so that sounds dumb as hell

Ok, excellent job addressing my analogy rather than the point that I made directly following it.

my piont is that we are all police if some suspect shit goes on outside our house...but guess what...we stay inside and call the authorites!!!

So your point is that if something out of the ordinary happens you should avoid confrontation and instead contact the police?

Why didn't Trayvon do that? It might not be the perfect comparison, but your ideology contradicts SimpleMans' to a large degree.

well i can't wait to see the intelligent response to this

yes you should. thats why theres 911!!!!!! why would a grown man confront a "suspicious" person??? i know for a fact if it was 3 black guys and zimmerman never had a gun, he wouldve stayed his ass in the house and called 911. period.

hold up... who said he even confronted him. he was following him in his car. he got out of his car to check the cross streets so that he could tell the dispatcher where he was. That's when the confrontation ensued. Where at any point in the trial did the prosecution or anyone say he "confronted" martin... see this is the shit i hate... mothafuckaz talkin out they ass.

on the 911 tape zimmerman said he's running and u can hear him running after him open ya ears

he's running from his car cuz he seen the kid staring him down so he can check the cross streets and get back to his car- obviously fat boy didn't run fast enough.

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Originally posted by SimpleMan A lil bitch, boy im 54 yrs old and had to fight damn near all my life to stay alive, fuck you, dont know wtf u talkin about boy!

Age has nothing to do with wisdom. You can keep living your life the way it is, refusing to make a reasonable observation. I don't really give a fuck. After you concede defeat with no real attempt at making a point you really have nothing more to lose.

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watch the trial... u didnt even watch the trial... u know none of the facts... all the shit u spewing is personal opinion. im done. some of you are intelligent, most of you tho, all emotion, no intelligent thoughts.

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fact is he shot a 17 year old for no reason

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Originally posted by JimmyTheButcher

Originally posted by SimpleMan A lil bitch, boy im 54 yrs old and had to fight damn near all my life to stay alive, fuck you, dont know wtf u talkin about boy!

im no boy. and you may be twice my age... but you having to fight all your life... sounds like a personal problem. you shoulda got your shit together earlier in life, wouldn't have had to fight so much. You shouldn't be bragging about that. Nothing to be proud of in the real world.

Military wouldnt take me because i had done to much time, its had to grow up and make it at 13 when people tryn to steal ya money and anything else ya have!I was poor, but i did end up with a trucking co., took awhile, but i got out of that life!You dont know shit about me and I dont know shit about you!

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[quote=Koryn][quote=BAnGA][quote=Koryn][quote=MsHoney][quote=Koryn][quote=SimpleMan][quote=Koryn][quote=SimpleMan][quote=Koryn][quote=SimpleMan]So its ok to kill an unarmed 17 yr old, that is wipping ur ass, with a Gun?[/quote]

So it's ok to beat a man for being suspicious of you?[/quote]

Why use a Gun?If you cant handle yourself, stay the fuck on the porch![/quote]

wit a bag of skittles and a ice tea fuck outta here

He used a gun because he was being attacked. Just because someone is stronger than you doesn't mean they have the right to assault you. You could say that he brought a gun to a fist fight, but you shouldn't say he brought a gun to ANY fight because there's no proof that he intended to get into a fight with the boy at all.[/quote]

You stupid ass nigga, he followed him,talkin shit how They always get away with shit,thats lookin for trouble!Go read Super Man,or some shit, fuck outa here younging.[/quote]

Trayvon reacted instinctively, and so did Zimmerman. He drew his gun because he was being attacked. If you've really been in an uneven fight before you would understand how your brain will do crazy shit to protect itself.[/quote]

so why did he even approach him at all??? answer that first....[/quote]

Because there was a string of burglaries and he thought Trayvon looked suspicious.[/quote]

with a bag of skittles and a ice tea ? da fuck outta here[/quote]

If he had no skittles and tea would he have looked more suspicious? What was even the point of posting that?[/quote]

a kid with candy is suspicious now?

Originally posted by Koryn

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Originally posted by SimpleMan So its ok to kill an unarmed 17 yr old, that is wipping ur ass, with a Gun?

So it's ok to beat a man for being suspicious of you?

Why use a Gun?If you cant handle yourself, stay the fuck on the porch!

wit a bag of skittles and a ice tea fuck outta here

He used a gun because he was being attacked. Just because someone is stronger than you doesn't mean they have the right to assault you. You could say that he brought a gun to a fist fight, but you shouldn't say he brought a gun to ANY fight because there's no proof that he intended to get into a fight with the boy at all.

You stupid ass nigga, he followed him,talkin shit how They always get away with shit,thats lookin for trouble!Go read Super Man,or some shit, fuck outa here younging.

Trayvon reacted instinctively, and so did Zimmerman. He drew his gun because he was being attacked. If you've really been in an uneven fight before you would understand how your brain will do crazy shit to protect itself.

so why did he even approach him at all??? answer that first....

Because there was a string of burglaries and he thought Trayvon looked suspicious.

with a bag of skittles and a ice tea ? da fuck outta here

If he had no skittles and tea would he have looked more suspicious? What was even the point of posting that?

a kid with candy is suspicious now?

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[quote=SimpleMan][quote=JimmyTheButcher][quote=SimpleMan]A lil bitch, boy im 54 yrs old and had to fight damn near all my life to stay alive, fuck you, dont know wtf u talkin about boy![/quote]

im no boy. and you may be twice my age... but you having to fight all your life... sounds like a personal problem. you shoulda got your shit together earlier in life, wouldn't have had to fight so much. You shouldn't be bragging about that. Nothing to be proud of in the real world. [/quote]
Military wouldnt take me because i had done to much time, its had to grow up and make it at 13 when people tryn to steal ya money and anything else ya have!I was poor, but i did end up with a trucking co., took awhile, but i got out of that life!You dont know shit about me and I dont know shit about you!
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u dont and i dont.... but come at me because i disagree with you about this stupid shit. honestly i didn't know either one of them - i dont even give a fuck about the case itself. What gets me mad and under my skin is all the racists coming out. when shit like this happens you see everyone's true colors... in the heat of the moment. Zimmerman - not smartest guy in the world, dumb as fuck for following the kid, broke the law tho? nah. That is my opinion, but it's also a fact. Do i think this hol thing is fucked up? yea it is, sucks a young kid died before he got to live his life. Bad decisions on both sides led to this... but the decisions made my martin leading up to him getting shot were illegal. That's what fucked this case to hell to begin with. That's all im gunna say - seems my opinion insults all my so called friends on here.

Originally posted by SimpleMan

Originally posted by JimmyTheButcher

Originally posted by SimpleMan A lil bitch, boy im 54 yrs old and had to fight damn near all my life to stay alive, fuck you, dont know wtf u talkin about boy!

im no boy. and you may be twice my age... but you having to fight all your life... sounds like a personal problem. you shoulda got your shit together earlier in life, wouldn't have had to fight so much. You shouldn't be bragging about that. Nothing to be proud of in the real world.

Military wouldnt take me because i had done to much time, its had to grow up and make it at 13 when people tryn to steal ya money and anything else ya have!I was poor, but i did end up with a trucking co., took awhile, but i got out of that life!You dont know shit about me and I dont know shit about you!

u dont and i dont.... but come at me because i disagree with you about this stupid shit. honestly i didn't know either one of them - i dont even give a fuck about the case itself. What gets me mad and under my skin is all the racists coming out. when shit like this happens you see everyone's true colors... in the heat of the moment. Zimmerman - not smartest guy in the world, dumb as fuck for following the kid, broke the law tho? nah. That is my opinion, but it's also a fact. Do i think this hol thing is fucked up? yea it is, sucks a young kid died before he got to live his life. Bad decisions on both sides led to this... but the decisions made my martin leading up to him getting shot were illegal. That's what fucked this case to hell to begin with. That's all im gunna say - seems my opinion insults all my so called friends on here.

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Originally posted by Koryn

Originally posted by SimpleMan A lil bitch, boy im 54 yrs old and had to fight damn near all my life to stay alive, fuck you, dont know wtf u talkin about boy!

Age has nothing to do with wisdom. You can keep living your life the way it is, refusing to make a reasonable observation. I don't really give a fuck. After you concede defeat with no real attempt at making a point you really have nothing more to lose.

You try to raise 4 brothers at a young age, then we'll talk

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[quote=nickrox]jhate-once again, ya'll acting like u saw the shit happen...how do u know that trayvon just up & startd beating on Zimmerman? mayb he did I wasn't there...but u could also argue the fact that Zimmerman grabd trayvon bcuz he didn't stop when he told him 2, or mayb he got inbetween trayvon & his house & trayvon tryd 2 push pass'd him & Zimmerman impede'd his progress & a 17yr old kid felt threatened & defend'd himself against a dude that had him out weight'd by over 100 lbs.

no one was there though..you cant convict him of murder based on assumptions...there werent facts that show zimmerman attack him either...infact zimmerman was one of those annoying people that call the cops on everything and didnt take shit into his own hands..he woulda called on and followed an old lady if he didnt recognize her...a tragedy yes both sides at fault but not 2nd degree murder[/quote]

nick I knew he wouldn't be convictd of the 2nd degree murder charge when they 1st charged him with it...they had no chance 2 prove Zimmerman intend'd 2 kill trayvon b4 he confront'd him...& if he woulda listen'd to the dispatcher that told him not 2 follow the"suspect" that the police were on there way, none of this happens...did he plan on killing trayvon, I don't think he did, did his actions lead 2 sum1 getting kill'd..yes they did...its  a blantant example of the system failing 2 charge sum1 with sumthing they can prove beyond a reasonable doubt...they knew when they charged him with 2nd degree murder the shit was gonna stick

Originally posted by nickrox jhate-once again, ya'll acting like u saw the shit happen...how do u know that trayvon just up & startd beating on Zimmerman? mayb he did I wasn't there...but u could also argue the fact that Zimmerman grabd trayvon bcuz he didn't stop when he told him 2, or mayb he got inbetween trayvon & his house & trayvon tryd 2 push pass'd him & Zimmerman impede'd his progress & a 17yr old kid felt threatened & defend'd himself against a dude that had him out weight'd by over 100 lbs.

no one was there though..you cant convict him of murder based on assumptions...there werent facts that show zimmerman attack him either...infact zimmerman was one of those annoying people that call the cops on everything and didnt take shit into his own hands..he woulda called on and followed an old lady if he didnt recognize her...a tragedy yes both sides at fault but not 2nd degree murder

nick I knew he wouldn't be convictd of the 2nd degree murder charge when they 1st charged him with it...they had no chance 2 prove Zimmerman intend'd 2 kill trayvon b4 he confront'd him...& if he woulda listen'd to the dispatcher that told him not 2 follow the"suspect" that the police were on there way, none of this happens...did he plan on killing trayvon, I don't think he did, did his actions lead 2 sum1 getting kill'd..yes they did...its a blantant example of the system failing 2 charge sum1 with sumthing they can prove beyond a reasonable doubt...they knew when they charged him with 2nd degree murder the shit was gonna stick

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