Ok so that's how they tweaked the whole training is they basically gave you less returns all around. It just wasn't clicking in my head.

140 energy+330ish Stam=356 output then to

153 energy+358 stam=301

Was like WTF. lol

train 6-7 times and record what u train with each time and average it out from there

[EDIT] You trained using 310 energy, gained 870 strength and 50808 exp

wormdogg was absolutely correct!

Originally posted by headhunter11b

Originally posted by DroDollar

ive trained better with a alot of stamina amens in my cell, but i stopped trainin so i dont kno what its like now

YUP i train with 279 NRG and 688 STM. MIN=590 MAX=812. but i can get about 724 for 6-10 times consecutively . i was wondering what the NRG to STM ratio was in SD if anyone had any idea? i train pretty good now but i think i can manage it a bit better! and totally max out my training!

[EDIT] I think i might have something to do with how much STM you have left over after each train! i typically have 18% which is about 160 some left over and well thats 160 stm wasted so maybe more energy? then when i add more NRG my training MIN and MAX goes down? but same ting if i add more STM i found so i just cannot hit the sweet spot? or maybe i did for a lvl 16?

There's no mystery here guys, I've said it outright and it's right in the wiki! The more stamina you have, the higher your gains!

Originally posted by Mufasa

Originally posted by headhunter11b

Originally posted by DroDollar

ive trained better with a alot of stamina amens in my cell, but i stopped trainin so i dont kno what its like now

YUP i train with 279 NRG and 688 STM. MIN=590 MAX=812. but i can get about 724 for 6-10 times consecutively . i was wondering what the NRG to STM ratio was in SD if anyone had any idea? i train pretty good now but i think i can manage it a bit better! and totally max out my training!

[EDIT] I think i might have something to do with how much STM you have left over after each train! i typically have 18% which is about 160 some left over and well thats 160 stm wasted so maybe more energy? then when i add more NRG my training MIN and MAX goes down? but same ting if i add more STM i found so i just cannot hit the sweet spot? or maybe i did for a lvl 16?

There's no mystery here guys, I've said it outright and it's right in the wiki! The more stamina you have, the higher your gains!

Correct yes, which wasn't my real concern. I had left over Stamina, about 160-ish. I could not figure how i could fully maximize my potential which Wormdogg had explained to me...

Ya, Im going to try to get an actual larger scale average here. Gonna shoot for like 50 or 100 then average.

Originally posted by Mufasa

Originally posted by headhunter11b

Originally posted by DroDollar

ive trained better with a alot of stamina amens in my cell, but i stopped trainin so i dont kno what its like now

YUP i train with 279 NRG and 688 STM. MIN=590 MAX=812. but i can get about 724 for 6-10 times consecutively . i was wondering what the NRG to STM ratio was in SD if anyone had any idea? i train pretty good now but i think i can manage it a bit better! and totally max out my training!

[EDIT] I think i might have something to do with how much STM you have left over after each train! i typically have 18% which is about 160 some left over and well thats 160 stm wasted so maybe more energy? then when i add more NRG my training MIN and MAX goes down? but same ting if i add more STM i found so i just cannot hit the sweet spot? or maybe i did for a lvl 16?

There's no mystery here guys, I've said it outright and it's right in the wiki! The more stamina you have, the higher your gains!

Roger dat!

I read the wiki and understand that the more stam you have the more your returns. However if you look at just the stam from Putnam 330 to Zona 358 and there is a -55 in returns then that makes no sense. However I was informed that the prison has everything to do with it and the lower prisons get better gains. Which makes sense and was the missing link to me.

Thanks for the replies guys.

I am actually getn gd gains

You will in Putnam. Wait till Zona. lol You'll see the difference.

Yes, in your case that's correct, more NRG burns up more STM