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14 years ago  #11
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Originally posted by nickrox
Originally posted by Auminer Simple fact of the matter is Nick is money. So long as there is an illegal drug trade crossing the river into the U.S., the U.S. will not interfere with it. Our government may "act" like there is a war on drugs, but if you dig, even a little bit, into how they are doing it, you'll see that there is money being made hand over fist by "special interest groups", companies with political ties etc etc.

That is why we aren't helping or even aren't overly concerned with Mexico.

i know this is an impossible idea...but this is the biggest voice i have in our little world....if i spoke out of the street people would think im nuts before listening..but monday..i will be calling my senator...and telling him he is a fucking dumbass if we dont help them...i know it wont change..but if they all get called out on it..it may put an idea in there head...

lets start a revolution pb...lol

Just imagine Nick, for one second, if we played selfish for 1 year. What I mean by that is we stop foreign aid to everyone. We recall all of our troops world wide and all of our wars/policing activities halted. Our budget is anywhere from 52-55% defense related, this also covers overseas activities. This equates to roughly 1700 Billion Dollars. 4% is foreign aid as equates to another number in the Billions.

We spend 5% or less on our education, 2% on community and regional development, 3% on national resources and environment, another 2% on training and employment services. Hell, here is the pie chart.

Think about if we simply just cut out half of what I suggested and kept some of that money. Where would the U.S. be? How much more advanced and better off would every citizen be? Granted, we as a people would need to ensure that the new found money would be appropriated properly.

We throw away so much money it makes me sick to be honest. And a lot of it goes to where people hate us the most, which has me scratching my head. Don't get me wrong, I believe in helping where help is needed, but good god we spend a lot of money elsewhere while cutting our own throats here at home. There is a reason why our education system is so far behind the rest of the worlds.

14 years ago  #12
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i love pie charts...

14 years ago  #13
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auminer..i agree with you..i dont think we need to be in egypt or lybia...i know we waste fuck tons of money...thats why im proposing we waste money that actually helps a counrty...

Originally posted by phoenix1971
Originally posted by nickrox
Originally posted by phoenix1971 u cannot help a country who will not ask for help...

thats bullshit....they are too scared that they will get their fucking heads chopped off..and not only thiers..but their kids and relitives heads

just saying i am not american , but have been watching the libya drama unfold.. people were complaining that they were helping libya but not syria , and it was said until a country actually asks for help they can do nothing they cannot go against a countrys soverighn rights or some shit.. i dunno im not a expert but im guessing there is a ton of history between mexico and usa and mostly not good .. maybe they do not want to help???

the government is no longer in charge of mexico...the drug lords are...im blue collar..as is the majority of america..but we sit around and let the rich fuckheads run our shit....i dont really care...but when i see a country as fucked up as mexico is..dammit we need to help them...its like a neighbors house burning down...are you gonna say oh well...im gonna go watch south park?

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Originally posted by hanako i love pie charts...

lol I guess my point rolled up in a ball is that we or hell, any country for that matter, needs to have a clean house before it is able to truly be effective in helping another country. Scale it down to yourself. I can't lend/give you $20 if I have a $70 income and $20 for rent, $20 power $40 for my own personal Nickrox to protect me (just kidding on that, lol). The math just doesn't add up.

Now with my power and rent being a static I can get my defense to a manageable $5 or $10 then I can lend out a $20. Unless that balance happens, anyone would simply be treading water in debt. Hence the U.S.'s biggest problem at the moment.

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Originally posted by nickrox auminer..i agree with you..i dont think we need to be in egypt or lybia...i know we waste fuck tons of money...thats why im proposing we waste money that actually helps a counrty...

Originally posted by phoenix1971
Originally posted by nickrox
Originally posted by phoenix1971 u cannot help a country who will not ask for help...

thats bullshit....they are too scared that they will get their fucking heads chopped off..and not only thiers..but their kids and relitives heads

just saying i am not american , but have been watching the libya drama unfold.. people were complaining that they were helping libya but not syria , and it was said until a country actually asks for help they can do nothing they cannot go against a countrys soverighn rights or some shit.. i dunno im not a expert but im guessing there is a ton of history between mexico and usa and mostly not good .. maybe they do not want to help???

the government is no longer in charge of mexico...the drug lords are...im blue collar..as is the majority of america..but we sit around and let the rich fuckheads run our shit....i dont really care...but when i see a country as fucked up as mexico is..dammit we need to help them...its like a neighbors house burning down...are you gonna say oh well...im gonna go watch south park?

I agree Nick, our money appropriation is fucked up at the moment. Right now, and it's been like this for quite some time, is that our funds are going to where they benefit our officials the most. Not necessarily where they are needed the most.

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Originally posted by nickrox why in the fuck isnt america helping mexico....

i could write a long ass post about this, but simple..we helped egypt after a facebook protest..helped lybia becuse some people got antsy....mexico is ran by druglords...the police are scared..the people are too scared to ask for help...the drug lords hang people off bridges with intestines hanging out as warnings....

i wanna know why the fuck we are not sending troops there...fuck iraq..bin ladens dead...can we not help people that are living in fear?

The US is helping (and I hate to admit that). For a while the CIA have helped South American countries stop the drug trade and they are helping Mexico too... but admittedly they are not helping nearly as much as they could.

Phoenix is right... Mexico aren't asking for help as Mexico don't want to rely on the US too much. The situation in Mexico is pretty bad though. No officials want to have a strong stance on drugs as those that do tend to get killed very quickly. Sad story.

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Originally posted by Death_Hand_Luke
Originally posted by nickrox why in the fuck isnt america helping mexico....

i could write a long ass post about this, but simple..we helped egypt after a facebook protest..helped lybia becuse some people got antsy....mexico is ran by druglords...the police are scared..the people are too scared to ask for help...the drug lords hang people off bridges with intestines hanging out as warnings....

i wanna know why the fuck we are not sending troops there...fuck iraq..bin ladens dead...can we not help people that are living in fear?

The US is helping (and I hate to admit that). For a while the CIA have helped South American countries stop the drug trade and they are helping Mexico too... but admittedly they are not helping nearly as much as they could.

Phoenix is right... Mexico aren't asking for help as Mexico don't want to rely on the US too much. The situation in Mexico is pretty bad though. No officials want to have a strong stance on drugs as those that do tend to get killed very quickly. Sad story.

ok were helping as much as they figure out how many people live in my house...paperwork and phonecalls....thats not helping shit..and who has to ask for help specifically?...the president? he wont do it cuz he doesnt want to die...hell ill go stand over there and scream help me

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I have to say that if they are in distress and won't speak b/c of being scared then NATO should look into it... but as of today only a few excusions have came across the borders from 1 Natl Guard unit and several CPB officers being injured or killed... I believe that if another American is sucked into their drug war then the US should go in there and re-instate the power.

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if nothing else..we should go in there and take over the drug trade and make money...just leave out the killing of innocent people part

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Originally posted by Zanej I have to say that if they are in distress and won't speak b/c of being scared then NATO should look into it... but as of today only a few excusions have came across the borders from 1 Natl Guard unit and several CPB officers being injured or killed... I believe that if another American is sucked into their drug war then the US should go in there and re-instate the power.

Guess u have the flipside of that too and no americans take offence plz lol but alot of people especially mexico and alot of other countrys like arab nations..

who the fuck is america to tell people how to run there shit??

Btw i do not think that way , but end of day some people and countrys do.. like u say america cannot even look after there own shit so what right do they have telling others how to run theres??

Just a thought outside ure box

 

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