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14 years ago  #31
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Originally posted by nickrox the earth will end (period)

Doesn't mean we have to speed it along

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im supposed to write a bunch of shit on here... but george carlin says it best

live life, have fun, die!

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Originally posted by CaNnAbIsViLLe
Originally posted by Death_Hand_Luke
Originally posted by CaNnAbIsViLLe
Originally posted by nickrox
Originally posted by CaNnAbIsViLLe
Originally posted by Death_Hand_Luke
Originally posted by CaNnAbIsViLLe Actually there is another animal/organism which behaves in pretty much the same way, a virus.

A virus will reproduce in it's host to the point of killing it, essentially killing itself. So therefore humans are Gaia's virus.

While I agree something should be done (member of Greenpeace and Cal Wildlife Conservation), there is a much bigger problem that we face. Imo the big picture we should be concentrating on is global warming.

What good is it to protect a species if we're destroying the whole earth?

Agreed. Global warming is a big issue but hard to fight on a small scale individual level. I do my part though... my research is improving the efficiency and reducing the emissions of petrol engined cars.

Though that doesn't stop support of smaller ecosystems. As a diver I have a soft spot for sharks (LOVE diving with them) and marine life. I am a member of Bite Back and also an RSPB member.

There are small things we can all do together that can and would have a major impact. Stop eating/curb eating red meat, change all lights in your house to cfl bulb, recycle, compost and carpool a couple times a week

Also, everyone should write their congressmen/woman to pressure them to support the research for alternative fuels and stop being puppets for big oil.

touch my meat and there will be a fight on yur hands

To play devil's advocate, what makes sharks any different than cows? Here you are raising awareness for saving an animal species yet contribute to the killing of another by the millions?? :confused: lol

Sharks are endangered species that play a vital role in the ecosystem and are creatures that wonder the whole oceans... hundreds of millions of years being developed as the ultimate killing machine.

Cows are a species domesticated and bred by humans with little impact on the ecosystem themselves (excluding the deforestation to make way for farmland but that is a slightly different issue, not directly related).

Personally I am a total carnivore but watch what meat I eat... I haven't eaten cod in years for example and haven't stepped food in a Tescos for over 3 years (despite it being the ONLY local supermarket) once I discovered they were selling shark fun soup. I have other issues with Tescos on the local and community scale but that is an unrelated issue.

LMFAO!!! Have little impact on the eco-system?!?!?

Please, every year we continue more and more deforestation to make areas to raise cattle. Cows produce massive amounts of methane which is worse than CO2 in terms of global warming. In fact cows contribute more to global warming than cars. Now that's just the small picture, now think of all the CO2 that's emitted from the trucks that take the cows to the slaughterhouse and to your local market? Do you see how the problem becomes increasingly BIGGER.

If everyone stopped eating red meat it would contribute massive amounts to curbing global warming.

Once again, why save sharks if we're just going to destroy the earth? Sharks are no better than cows period, and to say different is mere ignorance and one's own perception.

I did say that cows directly have little impact... ignoring the deforestation. Yes deforestation is a huge issue, but that is to do with the mass production of meat - it is the way we mass produce meat that is the issue. Sheep for example are reared on mountain land that is unsuitable for ANY crops and is not forested. Eating lamb has NO impact on the environment - in fact it actually helps as it reduces the load on arable land used for farming... which in itself has issues due to irrigation (though crops are needed to feed animals).

As for your last point, I think Howie said it very well so don't need to repeat.

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some global warmin would be nice its fuckin cold were i live in the winter time n i cant work in the winter let the shit heat up idc if we loose long island my taxes will be cheaper

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George Carlin is awesome Dem! I love his argument on God

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Originally posted by CaNnAbIsViLLe George Carlin is awesome Dem! I love his argument on God

Dont mind me fellas im just playing around lol, but yeah Carlin was a genius

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Originally posted by CaNnAbIsViLLe
Originally posted by nickrox the earth will end (period)

Doesn't mean we have to speed it along

yes and humans caused the mass extinction of the dinosaurs and millions of other species...trust me..i wouldnt worry too much about some cows farting

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Originally posted by kidchronic idc if we loose long island my taxes will be cheaper

the rest of nys would be screwed if it wasnt for nyc...we would be paying more

"Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something." ~ Plato
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Originally posted by nickrox
Originally posted by CaNnAbIsViLLe
Originally posted by nickrox the earth will end (period)

Doesn't mean we have to speed it along

yes and humans caused the mass extinction of the dinosaurs and millions of other species...trust me..i wouldnt worry too much about some cows farting

That's crazy... you can't claim its ok to wipe out whole ecosystems because 5 times in the last 4.5 billion years we have had a mass extinction event. It's like saying murder is ok because we will all die eventually.

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Originally posted by Death_Hand_Luke
Originally posted by CaNnAbIsViLLe
Originally posted by Death_Hand_Luke
Originally posted by CaNnAbIsViLLe
Originally posted by nickrox
Originally posted by CaNnAbIsViLLe
Originally posted by Death_Hand_Luke
Originally posted by CaNnAbIsViLLe Actually there is another animal/organism which behaves in pretty much the same way, a virus.

A virus will reproduce in it's host to the point of killing it, essentially killing itself. So therefore humans are Gaia's virus.

While I agree something should be done (member of Greenpeace and Cal Wildlife Conservation), there is a much bigger problem that we face. Imo the big picture we should be concentrating on is global warming.

What good is it to protect a species if we're destroying the whole earth?

Agreed. Global warming is a big issue but hard to fight on a small scale individual level. I do my part though... my research is improving the efficiency and reducing the emissions of petrol engined cars.

Though that doesn't stop support of smaller ecosystems. As a diver I have a soft spot for sharks (LOVE diving with them) and marine life. I am a member of Bite Back and also an RSPB member.

There are small things we can all do together that can and would have a major impact. Stop eating/curb eating red meat, change all lights in your house to cfl bulb, recycle, compost and carpool a couple times a week

Also, everyone should write their congressmen/woman to pressure them to support the research for alternative fuels and stop being puppets for big oil.

touch my meat and there will be a fight on yur hands

To play devil's advocate, what makes sharks any different than cows? Here you are raising awareness for saving an animal species yet contribute to the killing of another by the millions?? :confused: lol

Sharks are endangered species that play a vital role in the ecosystem and are creatures that wonder the whole oceans... hundreds of millions of years being developed as the ultimate killing machine.

Cows are a species domesticated and bred by humans with little impact on the ecosystem themselves (excluding the deforestation to make way for farmland but that is a slightly different issue, not directly related).

Personally I am a total carnivore but watch what meat I eat... I haven't eaten cod in years for example and haven't stepped food in a Tescos for over 3 years (despite it being the ONLY local supermarket) once I discovered they were selling shark fun soup. I have other issues with Tescos on the local and community scale but that is an unrelated issue.

LMFAO!!! Have little impact on the eco-system?!?!?

Please, every year we continue more and more deforestation to make areas to raise cattle. Cows produce massive amounts of methane which is worse than CO2 in terms of global warming. In fact cows contribute more to global warming than cars. Now that's just the small picture, now think of all the CO2 that's emitted from the trucks that take the cows to the slaughterhouse and to your local market? Do you see how the problem becomes increasingly BIGGER.

If everyone stopped eating red meat it would contribute massive amounts to curbing global warming.

Once again, why save sharks if we're just going to destroy the earth? Sharks are no better than cows period, and to say different is mere ignorance and one's own perception.

I did say that cows directly have little impact... ignoring the deforestation. Yes deforestation is a huge issue, but that is to do with the mass production of meat - it is the way we mass produce meat that is the issue. Sheep for example are reared on mountain land that is unsuitable for ANY crops and is not forested. Eating lamb has NO impact on the environment - in fact it actually helps as it reduces the load on arable land used for farming... which in itself has issues due to irrigation (though crops are needed to feed animals).

As for your last point, I think Howie said it very well so don't need to repeat.

I'm done, you're obviously missing the point.

 

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