Mufasa, i live in nothern ireland, and I knew about the "occupy wall street" protests , I find it sad that you and 2 other americans did not know about them. I know your going to say that you didnt know about them because you didnt hear about them in the media you have seen (probably not the way you would put it) , and that too is a problem and mabye you should question why the mainstream media is silent on this protest while they covered similar protests recently in egeypt ect.

The term "conspiricy theriost" is a widly over generalised cliche' these days, Knowing how your money supply is controlled should be high school stuff not "englightened" or for the highly educated , and mabye you should question why the source of the nations money supply and fractional reserve lending is not taught in high school economics, as it makes sence to me that everyone should know the basics of the economy .

I do appoligise for my origional harsh responces, something like this would have been more appropriate.

Oh, gotcha. Because I live in America, every waking moment of my day should be spent following the movements of activists around the country instead of working to keep food on my table (and the tables of those that work for me).

Silly me, how selfish and ignorant I have been.

Well, it does cover a broad range of people. Those who are active for a certain cause and tend to be condescending to those who aren't and accuse them of being blind or ignorant when they don't know or agree with a cause. The conspiracy nuts end up in this group with the added quality that they tend to over-analyze and find corrupt issues in just about anything. There's rarely any proof or solution provided, but much "call to action". What action is usually undefined -- blind indignation might suffice.

I equate them to the eco-freaks (as I call them) that go so far as to look down on you because you drove somewhere instead of biking there. "Think about your carbon footprint! Think about this, think about that" -- well, sorry, in an ideal world people would be aware and constantly worrying about every single nuance of every single problem, but it's not realistic so you end up with small factions that become fanatic over a cause and condemn others that aren't.

Same goes for religious nuts and the PETA crowd.

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I dont have a problem with renting, although somethimes it can be very expensive, costing almost the same as mortgage payments. I do believe though that the average working man should have the prospirety to one day own his own humble accomodation without having to work like a slave for 50 years. This is not a pipe dream, 20-30 years ago in my country the average working man could afford to get a mortage for a small house as long as he didnt go out partying every weekend, 30 years of high inflation and boom and bust cycles is bad economy managment. I believe the state of North Dakota is a good example of good economy managment , North Dakota is also the only state with a state owned bank with far better conditions for the average man than most states in the same country who use the fractional reserve banking system to rent their $ form intenational oligarghs.

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Well Mufasa i dont think theres much more to say between us here, people can look over whats been said, if they want to, and make up their own minds.

I can't believe you are likening the protests to those that have happened in the Arab world in the last 6 months... those were about fundamental freedoms such as people being killed by their own government for speaking out against them. Quite a different scale.

As for the mortgages... yes it would be good if people could own their own flats but unfortunately one of the reasons for the economic crash was that banks were giving out mortgages with almost no deposit (so people on low income could own their own home) but with a drop in the housing market, or interest rate change, people and the banks ended up in negative equity. That is not a good thing!

I can't believe you are likening the protests to those that have happened in the Arab world in the last 6 months... those were about fundamental freedoms such as people being killed by their own government for speaking out against them. Quite a different scale.

Wrong, thats how our corrupted mainstream media tries to put it accross, however, the arab spring hs the same driving factor which is wealth in-equality, try asking anyone on the ground and they will tell you that especially in egypt a main driving factor that acctually got people nto the streets was the price of food..

As for the mortgages... yes it would be good if people could own their own flats but unfortunately one of the reasons for the economic crash was that banks were giving out mortgages with almost no deposit (so people on low income could own their own home) but with a drop in the housing market, or interest rate change, people and the banks ended up in negative equity. That is not a good thing!

The banks gave out 5x , 6x or more x annunal sallery mortgages, which people would obviously default on. In a functioning society 3x the average wage should buy a humble accomodation.

people need to learn to live within their means..

http://www.livestream.com/globalrevolution

what an arragont ,selfish, simple minded and downright incompasionate thing to say when the top 1 % of society has more wealth than the bottom 99%, things are not ok, wake up, which side are you on?