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15 years ago  #81
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Fact. There are ALOT of things on earth that are here that man could never dream of re-creating. Even if u dont believe in god, read the bible, alot of the events predicted in the bible are or already have happened and the bible was said to have been written thousands of years ago..

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Originally posted by YungMescoline Fact. There are ALOT of things on earth that are here that man could never dream of re-creating. Even if u dont believe in god, read the bible, alot of the events predicted in the bible are or already have happened and the bible was said to have been written thousands of years ago..

http://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.com/2010/04/alot-is-better-than-you-at-everything.html

 
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Originally posted by hanako hmmmm true Mr Meal... but... what about cases where there is no death... say a young child is abused in their home... leaving them traumatised for life... why the absence of intervention then?

I, as well as many others whom had much worse than I did, came from an abusive household. With that said there was good that came out of it. It is in what the person chooses to view. Which again leads us back to view points and not whether or not god exists. I agree with Jay from a few posts back. God doesn't give us anything we can not handle. It's just my belief ( I am not saying anyone has to agree with me here ).

With that said, if he did give us free will then that is exactly what this all is, free will. The result of "our" free will is what we have today. Crime at an all time high for the most part, no respect for one another let alone ourselves ( which is what spawns no respect for someone else ), greed over green paper and shiny stone to the point of killing each other off and the list goes on.

Why would god reverse all of that if this is a test of free will versus faith? Ever heard this life is nothing but a test? It doesn't matter if you pass or fail on this planet seeing as you're going to die anyway, it's all for after.

Fact is, no one knows for sure whether or not god exists. We can only speculate on that matter and we believe what we want to believe. However, let me ask the agnostics this, what does it hurt to believe? What if, just what if when you die, you go to the nice pearly gates and are asked "so, how strong was your faith?"

Just a simple question. I never really understood agnostics/atheists outside of countless debates of God doesn't exist because I heard X X X X X. Again, I am and have not said anyone needs to agree with my point of view all I am doing is asking a simple question.

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I believe in inteligent design, just look at the complexity of a leaf or insect. "evoloution" is not a proven theroy, there are 5-6 different types of evoloution theroys known which range from a species developing new charastics , as its environment changes over time ,( example skin turning brown in warmer climate), to a species changing into another species. (example fish to bird). There is alot of evidence for the type of evoloution showing small changes like skin colour over time but no real evidence for the type of evoloution where a species changes into a different species. When u talk about "evoloution" it is essential to specify which evoloution theroy you are reffering to.

Im gonna post a video , the speaker is a creationist christian and I dont aggree with 100% of what he is saying, however, he raises good points concerning the validity of other data, and reminds you how shaky some of the theroys going about now really are . He spent a few years traveling universtitys and town halls debating evoloutionists untill the IRS caught up with him. This man is currently in jail serving a 10 year sentance for failure to pay his taxs .

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micro evolution is more plausible in my opinion as well, it's clear we all adapt to our environments, from the food we eat to our climate, it's evident that a bear up north will need more fat and fur than a brown bear in the forest and adaptations are made but it's beyond me how one can assert a lizard became a bird, how would it adapt to that? did a species of lizard have a habit of trying to fly for a million years until it's genetic makeup decided to give it wings? I'm no biology expert though but from general logic I can't see that being the best theory we've got.

And regardless, from our first records of modern human existence we "evolved" from living in caves and tents to in 100 story skyscrapers in like 10k years, how? when evolution is made to take millions of years this is where i say divine intervention took place. what seperates us from animals so to speak.

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This is another great video by another great speaker. This video will show you how someone of wealth and power can corrupt a handfull of scientists and newspaper editors to put out a one sided lie to the public. MUST SEE!.

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And finially some real interesting modern science , just take a quick look at this 5min video:

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Originally posted by eazyas I believe in inteligent design, just look at the complexity of a leaf or insect. "evoloution" is not a proven theroy, there are 5-6 different types of evoloution theroys known which range from a species developing new charastics , as its environment changes over time ,( example skin turning brown in warmer climate), to a species changing into another species. (example fish to bird). There is alot of evidence for the type of evoloution showing small changes like skin colour over time but no real evidence for the type of evoloution where a species changes into a different species. When u talk about "evoloution" it is essential to specify which evoloution theroy you are reffering to.

Im gonna post a video , the speaker is a creationist christian and I dont aggree with 100% of what he is saying, however, he raises good points concerning the validity of other data, and reminds you how shaky some of the theroys going about now really are . He spent a few years traveling universtitys and town halls debating evoloutionists untill the IRS caught up with him. This man is currently in jail serving a 10 year sentance for failure to pay his taxs .

Originally posted by eazyas This is another great video by another great speaker. This video will show you how someone of wealth and power can corrupt a handfull of scientists and newspaper editors to put out a one sided lie to the public. MUST SEE!.

Originally posted by eazyas And finially some real interesting modern science , just take a quick look at this 5min video:

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do you all think animals have souls? and if you do then do you think they are damed for not having a religion? aren't we all like animals i mean we breath, feel , see, hear , die the same .... or im i mistaken ? dont god love us all the same? so why religion ?

 

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