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14 years ago  #71
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Originally posted by BkGangstar
Originally posted by Howie429
Originally posted by BkGangstar so explain dis to me then...........defensive player vs speed player...they both have 580k in their bank............who u think will win consider da speed trainer can only mug dat player n pray for a beat down???? ur talkin about being able to hold $$.....dats not wat im talkin about.....defensive players knows better than to go to war with millions on dem

bank is nothin when your in SD and have unlimited exp available...bk i can go to war with the union right now, 80% of you guys can beat me but i can crime up cash faster than you guys can infirm me...a speed trainer can lose a fight then just mug more cash back and can hold more and loosing less in the long run during a war when they crime

ok so ur talkin about being able to buy out n crime..........well i wasnt....i was simply saying without da criming n a 1 vs1 situation...defensive trainer is gonna win in dat situation period.....now if its a war then yes a speed trainer can buy out n crime right away................BUT i've stuck speed trainers b4..............pretty sure during our war wit DR u were stuck at least once where u either sat our ur time in da infirm or some1 sent u buyout cause all we had to do was every1 attack n mug back to back...not giving u anytime to crime considering u only had a certain amount of $$ on u

thats cause you guys caught me slippen with low cash when i first get online, checking forums, sending cash to my guys, or busy refreshing your members pages to infrim them instead of criming...if im on and im in the right mindset and just worrying about criming u would need a few more people infirming me

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Originally posted by neo88 yes and dh2 adds 95% of that. it costs 80-100$, there arent many out there.....when is the last time you seen one sold? exactly they dont get sold.

its gonna be expensive cause not only does it gives u 95% but it lowers ur HP tremendously.....now i wish i had one myself but i ignore it cause i was like i aint defensive so i dont need dat dvd...wasnt thinkin about da HP

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Originally posted by BkGangstar
Originally posted by neo88 yes and dh2 adds 95% of that. it costs 80-100$, there arent many out there.....when is the last time you seen one sold? exactly they dont get sold.

its gonna be expensive cause not only does it gives u 95% but it lowers ur HP tremendously.....now i wish i had one myself but i ignore it cause i was like i aint defensive so i dont need dat dvd...wasnt thinkin about da HP

yes that makes it even harder to get because even the serious speed trainers want it cause of the effect on buyout

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Originally posted by Howie429
Originally posted by BkGangstar
Originally posted by Howie429
Originally posted by BkGangstar so explain dis to me then...........defensive player vs speed player...they both have 580k in their bank............who u think will win consider da speed trainer can only mug dat player n pray for a beat down???? ur talkin about being able to hold $$.....dats not wat im talkin about.....defensive players knows better than to go to war with millions on dem

bank is nothin when your in SD and have unlimited exp available...bk i can go to war with the union right now, 80% of you guys can beat me but i can crime up cash faster than you guys can infirm me...a speed trainer can lose a fight then just mug more cash back and can hold more and loosing less in the long run during a war when they crime

ok so ur talkin about being able to buy out n crime..........well i wasnt....i was simply saying without da criming n a 1 vs1 situation...defensive trainer is gonna win in dat situation period.....now if its a war then yes a speed trainer can buy out n crime right away................BUT i've stuck speed trainers b4..............pretty sure during our war wit DR u were stuck at least once where u either sat our ur time in da infirm or some1 sent u buyout cause all we had to do was every1 attack n mug back to back...not giving u anytime to crime considering u only had a certain amount of $$ on u

thats cause you guys caught me slippen with low cash when i first get online, checking forums, sending cash to my guys, or busy refreshing your members pages to infrim them instead of criming...if im on and im in the right mindset and just worrying about criming u would need a few more people infirming me

yea maybe if ur in da right state of mind u probably can avoid us but if i c u with about 700k n i know ur buyout is like 100k n we have about 7 ppl dat can mug or infirm u then best believe its a chance u can get stuck....i've done it to a lot of ppl b4 u just gotta be on point dats all

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Originally posted by neo88
Originally posted by BkGangstar
Originally posted by neo88 yes and dh2 adds 95% of that. it costs 80-100$, there arent many out there.....when is the last time you seen one sold? exactly they dont get sold.

its gonna be expensive cause not only does it gives u 95% but it lowers ur HP tremendously.....now i wish i had one myself but i ignore it cause i was like i aint defensive so i dont need dat dvd...wasnt thinkin about da HP

yes that makes it even harder to get because even the serious speed trainers want it cause of the effect on buyout

yea well lets just hope Mu gives some out soon..............................................................like superbowl event maybe

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i think def gets higher stats because its only used for fights only...speed gets used in both fighting and mugging...and both *speed and def need to train str no matter what for fights....so i think there needs to be some sort of advantage to training def or might as well eliminate it from the game

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Originally posted by BkGangstar
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Originally posted by BkGangstar I read a bit of wat was said.....i personally agree 1005 wit death_hand_luke.....Defensive trainers have more percentage amens than dat of speed n strength period.........now i understand wat neo said about defensive trainers having to train all 3 stats.........but i choose to train speed n strength b.c i didnt wanna get mug......defensive trainers r supposed to train defense n strength but b.c they dont wanna get mug they train speed also....so dats da only reason they train all 3 stats..........now about something neo said about me n hana base..........im not so sure all 3 of her base adds up to mines but i could be wrong n if it is higher than mine then i dont think its significantly higher so ur just jumping out on a limb there bro

This is something I see a lot of from speed trainers, but you've got to remember, there really aren't any def weapons and a big chunk of the def bonuses come from fridges and book cases. That's 26 slots def trainers have to use, and 26 slots spd trainers could use for more spd or str. I guess the bigger cells get, the less it's an issue, but I agree with neo, training all 3 stats is always gonna be a bigger coimmitment.

I do agree with the othr thing you said though. Kind of like a year or so ago when everyone suddenly switched from str/def to str/ spd. Weird how that seems to happen for no apparent reason.

training all 3 stats is harder than training just 2....no one is debating dat............but becoming a defensive trainer has a price n dats being able to get mug easily..........i already went thru da 26 candles n everything else....defensive amens still gives a better percentage than speed n strength

With the exception of dh2, and I'd bet less than 50 def trainers have that, I think if you looked at the bonuses, and the space it takes in your cell, that wouldn't be true

dat DH2 pushed defensive players up n i've had ppl checked it out already to c who had da better percentage n defense came out on top

I agree with that. dh2 was ridiculous, but how many def trainers actually have them, and how many are being held by spd trainers? It's not even an option for most now unless you got one when they came out, or can find someone selling and want to drop 1k + favors.

Think I'm straying off topic, but I don't think 99% of def trainers have it easy

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Originally posted by PsychoSteve
Originally posted by BkGangstar
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Originally posted by PsychoSteve
Originally posted by BkGangstar I read a bit of wat was said.....i personally agree 1005 wit death_hand_luke.....Defensive trainers have more percentage amens than dat of speed n strength period.........now i understand wat neo said about defensive trainers having to train all 3 stats.........but i choose to train speed n strength b.c i didnt wanna get mug......defensive trainers r supposed to train defense n strength but b.c they dont wanna get mug they train speed also....so dats da only reason they train all 3 stats..........now about something neo said about me n hana base..........im not so sure all 3 of her base adds up to mines but i could be wrong n if it is higher than mine then i dont think its significantly higher so ur just jumping out on a limb there bro

This is something I see a lot of from speed trainers, but you've got to remember, there really aren't any def weapons and a big chunk of the def bonuses come from fridges and book cases. That's 26 slots def trainers have to use, and 26 slots spd trainers could use for more spd or str. I guess the bigger cells get, the less it's an issue, but I agree with neo, training all 3 stats is always gonna be a bigger coimmitment.

I do agree with the othr thing you said though. Kind of like a year or so ago when everyone suddenly switched from str/def to str/ spd. Weird how that seems to happen for no apparent reason.

training all 3 stats is harder than training just 2....no one is debating dat............but becoming a defensive trainer has a price n dats being able to get mug easily..........i already went thru da 26 candles n everything else....defensive amens still gives a better percentage than speed n strength

With the exception of dh2, and I'd bet less than 50 def trainers have that, I think if you looked at the bonuses, and the space it takes in your cell, that wouldn't be true

dat DH2 pushed defensive players up n i've had ppl checked it out already to c who had da better percentage n defense came out on top

I agree with that. dh2 was ridiculous, but how many def trainers actually have them, and how many are being held by spd trainers? It's not even an option for most now unless you got one when they came out, or can find someone selling and want to drop 1k + favors.

Think I'm straying off topic, but I don't think 99% of def trainers have it easy

im not saying they have it easy.........im saying if we give speed n defense trainers da same base n then give dem all da amenities....defensive trainers gonna come ou wit better stats dats all im saying...........nothin more nothin less....i dont know who have dem but like i said i wish i had got myself a copy

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got to look at dhp2 like this...

mu wouldnt have released it if he didnt feel it balanced it out more.. cause there really hasnt been many speed amens released after it.. and none near the % increase

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Fuck dh2 that piece o shit dvd

 

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